If people want to destroy resource industries, they better specify which social programs they are willing to give up. Medical? Old Age pensions?
Jim Belsheim (President of Neptune Bulk Terminals) made some good points while on our tour of their facilities (see ‘Field Trip 2013: Neptune Bult Terminals) – in that we really need to see some changes to the demand side of the resource industry, instead of simply waiting for the supply side to fix the problem.
I think indeed this idea goes to your comment – we should not be trying to ‘destroy the resource industries’, as you say, without first making some changes to the net demand on said resources.
In an ideal world, we would transition away from a dependence on fossil fuels such as coal, for example, as we move toward other cleaner technologies, and/or develop alternatives to steel [editor’s note:Neptune only ships metallurgical grade coal – and does not transport coal for power production] (I’m maybe a bit pie in the sky here – but we certainly need to dream big). Thus, as we re-tool our economies to be less dependent on those industries that are taking such a toll on our planet, we get to keep all of the programs and services that we need and love while still maintaining a planet for our children to inherit. After all, at the end of the day, what good is an old age pension in a world where nobody lives to old age?
We can’t afford to fear monger about the effects of climate change, to be sure, but we certainly need to be thinking about the dangers to the structure of the world as we know it, and be thinking very seriously about how we manage our finite resources going forward. This is not even about climate change, it is about good, effective stewardship of the only planet that we have.
But climate change has been debunked. Instead it has become a religion for the environmentalists and bought into by politicians ready to jump on any bandwagon. Canada is a resource economy, indeed my question still stands, what will you do without?
When you say ‘debunked’ Dave, do you mean theories around human induced climate change, or climate change in general? Both statements would be demonstrably incorrect. Our planet’s environment has always been in flux, and whether you believe that the cause is as a result of human induced releases of C02 emissions, or some other natural planetary cycle, the evidence that we’re heating up (and rapidly), is at this stage pretty indisputable – even by many of those in the so-called ‘denial’ camp.
But please, please, be careful of the sources of your reading material, Dave. Climate change has been ‘debunked’ (again, I assume you mean to say theories surrounding climate change) by whom? There is a regular go-to petition floating around the internet, often cited by the likes of Fox News and others, that claims to have been signed by 30,000 ‘scientists’ (9000 with PHDs!) disputing the science of climate change. Trace back many of the articles around the denial industry (and yes, I’m calling it an industry) and you will find reference to this so-called ‘Oregon Petition’. It turns out that the origins of the petition date back to 1998, and since its release some 11,000 scientists have publicly removed their names (many claiming that they never signed it in the first place). Of the remaining signatories numerous questions remain. Many of these ‘scientists’ don’t or have never worked in climate science related fields. In the past I have referred to these scientists as the equivalent of the guys you see in white coats in toothpaste commercials – they look the part but on inspection their expertise doesn’t hold up.
Of the actual scientists in the world working and commenting on this issue, (and please, really, don’t take my word – what do I know?- read the journals, examine the press releases) there is not in fact any dispute whatsoever. Prominent geo-chemist and author James Powell released a recent study where he examined all peer reviewed journals containing the phrases ‘global warming’ or ‘global climate change’ from 1991 to 2012 – close to 14,000 articles – and determined that just 24 of these outright rejected global warming. Clearly this is not evidence that climate change has been debunked.
If you have alternate evidence that the planet’s environment is not heating up that we haven’t heard yet, please, direct me to its source….
@Dave Shirlaw – Climate Change has not been debunked. It is a reality we all need to be adjusting to now in an attempt to mitigate at least some of the consequences. Can you offer evidence of debunking?
Also, my belief in Canadian ingenuity suggests we can be much more than just an extractor and shipper. We have real skills that can make us a powerful knowledge economy, and resilient when the current resource boom hits bottom.
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